1. Not sure. I don't think there's been a mention of different marks of magazines. I'm not expert on guns, but I think when most guns change, the ammo (and the magazine that holds it) largely stay the same.

2. Usually a full load in the gun and a couple-few clips in his utility belt thing. More, I suppose, if they don't have an easy to reach resupply point.

3. I'm thinking not. In the Deathwatch rule book it makes particular mention of boltpistols have very small magazines. I'd imagine if they could fit a larger magazine in a boltpistol some marines would.

4. According to the Deathwatch rule book, the answer would be yes.

For two reasons: First, there are "stalker rounds" that are designed for the Stalker-pattern bolter, but its entry says it can be used in non-Stalker bolters.

Also there are no rules for using a particular gun for special ammunition.

 

1. No, you couldnt change ammo from a Mk1 bolter to a MkV for istance, from what i have read in RP books and so on, the types of ammo are different.

2. No idea sorry

3.No

4. i would presume so, as long as it was form the same Mk bolter.

 

a few questions related to the imperiums most recognizable armament.

1. Can magazines from the different patterns of Boltguns be fired from any version boltgun?

Not sure. It would make sense for the adaptions made would make the gun more powerful, so possibly needing a new ammo clip. But then again as far as I know the ammo they use is the same caliber (.75 standard) so if all the marks use the same caliber then they may use the same. I don't know anywhere in fluff wher eit states though.

2. How much ammunition is carried with an astartes when he drops into battle from a pod?

Don't know. In the SM demo I think the regular pattern bolter has 30 shots per round and around 300 max rounds? So about 10 clips. I could see them carrying more though.

3. Do magazines from a Bolt pistol fit into a Boltgun and vice versa?

I don't think so, I always imagined the bolt pistol would use smaller ammo. Plus they are not as powerful (in fluff and tabletop).

4. Could a Sternguard throw a magazine of there special ammunition to a fellow regular tactical marine for him to use in his Boltgun if say he were low on ammo?

Possibly. If the mag round was compatible with that tactical marines bolter then I could see it working.

The reason i have questions about this is i was recently conversing with a friend who just returned from afghanistan. We were talking about the weapons employed by the US forces and how if one member of a squad was low on ammo that a buddy would toss him some more. Which is a distinct tactical advantage that ammo is interchangeable between personal, and that the amount carried into the field is a good amount. <- this part comes from recetely reading the FALL OF DAMNOS ultramarine novel. So Sicarius drops in with pods to halt the necrons (Thousands upon thousands the book made it seem like) and whatdaya know alot of the space marines begin running outa ammo HERP DERP. maybe next time plan ahead that you should bring more.

Cold86

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Not sure. It would make sense for the adaptions made would make the gun more powerful, so possibly needing a new ammo clip. But then again as far as I know the ammo they use is the same caliber (.75 standard) so if all the marks use the same caliber then they may use the same. I don't know anywhere in fluff wher eit states though.

The bolt pistol and boltgun share the same ammo. On the table top they have the same strength and AP value. The boltgun shoots farther, however.

Even in the Deathwatch RPG book, the boltpistol and boltgun do the same damage and have the same penetration.

1. No, you couldnt change ammo from a Mk1 bolter to a MkV for istance, from what i have read in RP books and so on, the types of ammo are different.

Can't say I'm familiar with mark I, mark V bolters. Usually they're given in patterns, like the standard Godwyn-pattern bolter. Could you cite your source?

 

Bolt pistol magazines are smaller. In Deathwatch they're half the size of a regular bolter's 28 round magazine.

The Deathwatch rulebook is a rulebook for the pen and paper RPG. You know how DnD has rule books? Like, skill checks to try to open locks or move stealthily. Or combat rolls where you try to attack and the other person tries to dodge or parry? And then the general bread and butter open-ended roleplaying? Where, unlike a video game, you're free to do whatever you want (with the relevant consequences).

All within the confines of a dungeon/gamemaster's world.

 

the source im using is the inquisitor rules book.

 

Well, first things first, on further reading I got this, "The Deathawtch takes great advantage of variations that have been made on [bolt shells] over the years, yielding a wide variety of alternate rounds that still fire from a standard bolt weapon."

As for the Inquisitor rule book, I just read the section about bolters. Nothing said about them being unable to share ammo, just simply that the four options have different types of magazines (sickle, straight, drum, and belt).

 

Speaking from a mechanical standpoint a few things have to be taken into consideration.

Standard bolters are .75 caliber. heavy bolters are .100 So that ammo is not interchangeable.

With bolt pistols the caliber is the same but the length is what matters.

Real life example. The .357 magnum revolver can take .38 special rounds. The .38 is short in length but has the same diameter.

I think the easiest way to tell with a bolter would be the see if it fits in the mag if it does there's a good chance it can be fired. It can be done with .22 shorts in a LR so the same should apply.

even though the ammo might be the same you have to consider the receiver Loyalist marines use mags but chaos marines use clips.

If the receiver will take the mag then it will work.


Disclaimer, we are talking about fictional weapons we have to remember that this is not our world we are talking about therefore physics and engineering principals can't apply.

 

Reaper, do you know the difference between magazines and clips? Chaos Marines don't use clips.

Also there's no proof that that bolt pistol rounds are shorter, to my knowledge. Can you cite your source?

 

http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s336/UltimateDeidara/m890756a_Poster1_Large.jpg That looks like a clip to me.

As to the size of the bolts. Aside from the fact a bolt takes as much effort to make as a lasrifle there's a reason why officers only use pistols.

 

a few questions related to the imperiums most recognizable armament.

1. Can magazines from the different patterns of Boltguns be fired from any version boltgun?

2. How much ammunition is carried with an astartes when he drops into battle from a pod?

3. Do magazines from a Bolt pistol fit into a Boltgun and vice versa?



4. Could a Sternguard throw a magazine of there special ammunition to a fellow regular tactical marine for him to use in his Boltgun if say he were low on ammo?



The reason i have questions about this is i was recently conversing with a friend who just returned from afghanistan. We were talking about the weapons employed by the US forces and how if one member of a squad was low on ammo that a buddy would toss him some more. Which is a distinct tactical advantage that ammo is interchangeable between personal, and that the amount carried into the field is a good amount. <- this part comes from recetely reading the FALL OF DAMNOS ultramarine novel. So Sicarius drops in with pods to halt the necrons (Thousands upon thousands the book made it seem like) and whatdaya know alot of the space marines begin running outa ammo HERP DERP. maybe next time plan ahead that you should bring more.

Cold86

1: No idea, but to me it seems as if they are of different sizes (thickness). So maybe between some of the patterns but not all.

3: I guess not. But I don't think that it's unlikely that the ammo would be the same. Just like in modern pistols and submachine guns. For example the 9mm Parabellum which for is used in the Glock 17 pistol, the H&K MP5 submachinegun, and the Uzi submachine among others.

4: At least he would probably be able to take the bolter rounds from the magazine and put them into his own.

 

It has been said that the bolter is far to heavy to be wielded effectively by the average human or imperial guard soldier. Whether they are Imperial Guard varients I don't know. But it also says that the bolt pistol is more commonly used, as it is distrbted to Imperial Guard officers and seasoned veterans of the imperial guard.

here is an informative little page.

Bolters hold between 20-30 rounds, whilst a boltpistol can hold 6-10.

It does't say spcifically anywhere if magazines are interchangable as far as I know, but I'm inclined to believe they are not, as I can't find a source anywhere that confirms it.

 

The IG's numbers are the sole reason why they don't get the best equipment. It's kind of ironic really.

The reason why they are called the hammer of the Emperor is also why they are cannon fodder most of the time.

 

Imperial Guardsmen with... With Power Armor? Sure you aint reading any of Gotto`s writing here now?

 

I read somewhere that generals wear a version of power armor.

 

Seeing's how an Inquisitor can arm just about anyone in any amount of Power Armour it doesn't seem unreasonable that a Guard commander could get some really.

With bolters the number of different Patterns would make me think that not all ammunition is interchangeable. It will be within an organisation but with a Astarte Boltgun being much bigger and heavier than a Guard Boltgun it would seem unlikely the Magazines would be compatible but then the shells inside might be.

The Imperium is so vast that organisations on different sides of the Galaxy could not meet for literally thousands of year. In which time minor divergences will be amplified somewhat. So there would be no reason to expect that a Boltgun manufactured on one side of the Galaxy will fire ammunition produced on the other side successfully.

 

IIRC in Faith and Fire and and Last Chancers they say that SoB Bolters and bolt pistols used by IG officers are much smaller than SM Bolters and Bolt Pistols.